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TV Guide Canada Says Scott Bakula Is "Signed" |
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07:21:37 on April 03
By: Steve Krutzler
Dept: Series Five
According to the "Signed" section of the April 7-13 TV Guide Canada, Scott Bakula will "helm" the next Star Trek series. However, this is all the information printed and there is no way to ascertain whether the magazine actually confirmed this or is just reprinting Internet hype. |
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USS Enterprise NX-1701
By Shanok of Vulcan
() at 10:07:23 on April 05
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Let's discuss one of the main "continuity problems": the ship itself.
Sources seem pretty confident that it will be named "Enterprise". Some say this would be impossible as the dedication plaques on future Enterprises mention definite numbers of which one was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
However: I recall that refits and even complete overhauls are no news to the Star Trek universe, and that previously, famous ships have started of as "prototypes": series NX (eg. Excelsior in ST:III: NX-2000, to return only in ST:VI as NCC-2000; Defiant (DS9) and Prometheus (VOY).
If we accept that there already were a few five year missions by the Enterprise NCC 1701 before Kirk (2264) (captained by Robert April and Christopher Pike), is it then so hard to imagine an Enterprise prototype being launched around the turn of the century ? Or even that different prototype spaceships followed, were adapted, finally to be consolidated in the Constitution Class Starships we now know ?
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Series V - a return to the roots ?
By Shanok of Vulcan
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I have to say that I am delighted with the rumor of a pre-TOS series, in sofar as this would mean a return to the original spirit of the series (the TOS + movies and TNG era). Although I enjoyed the Dominion War Arc of DS9 and the Borg-related episodes of Voyager, I missed that "first-time sense-of-new-adventure" feeling of TOS and the movies.
I truly hope that the powers that be at Paramount will grant us a "trek to the roots", rather than a CGI dominated copy of the last few years, merely set in a different timeframe.
Considering what I read so far, I have high hopes: it has been a long time since I heard a producer speak the magic words "more along the lines of TOS and TNG". Also the presumed signing of Scott Bakula for the role of Captain Archer seems a clever move: we all know how sensitive Paramount and the network are when it comes to rates. Bakula just might help to boost the Nielsen that extra bit.
On the matter of consistency, there is of course a risk of tremendous damage. But so far, I have seen nothing that indicates such damage: T'Pau may indeed easily be a Vulcan Sub-Commander, liaison to the homeworld on a ship which sees the very foundation of the Federation. First Contact with the Klingons in the pilot would seem to suggest that this series will start shortly after the Romulan War, rather than during that time. By the way: in which episode was it said that the NCC 1701 was the very first Enterprise ? The only discontinuity I can recall would be the scene in TMP where Decker shows Ilea the rec room and points at the pictures of the different ships called Enterprise.
Finally, as member and president of the Belgian Star Trek Fanclub, I can say that the rumor of a new series has kicked life back into the Trek mind of many a fan: after the end of DS9, Trek entered a down period with little news and little to get excited about. This rumor, if only that, at least got us talking and dreaming again. And that's what it's all about, or isn't it ?
Live Long And Prosper
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My thoughts on Series V
By Dancin' Man
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Personally, I have high hopes for Series V. Although many people seem to have serious reservations about the viability of a prequel series, I tend to think it could be great if handled correctly. I've done a little research on the idea using the accumated rumors as a basis and here's what I've come up with.
1. The initail TV guide rumor said that the new series was to take place "100-150 years before the time of Kirk and Spock." This would place it anywhere from 2114-2164. This is, of course, using the offical dates of Kirk's first five year mission as a guide. (2264-2269)
2. Further, this would place it anywher from 51-101 years after first contact with the Vulcans. Hence, early in man's interstellar career. Therefore, the Idea of a Vulcan onboard the ship acting to oversee "hamanity's development in space" (casting sheet) is easy to swallow.
3. According to a timeline in the most recently published S.T. Encyclopedia, the Federation "was incorporated in 2161." Also accordin to this source Starfleet was founded on or soon after this date.
4. Hence the show will almost definately be pre-Fed, and quite possibly pre-Starfleet.
This obviously takes care of the Pre TOS enterprise problem as Kirk would still be the first Starfleet vessel.
5. Interestingly, according to the timeline the conflict with the Romulans that led to the formation of the Nuetral Zone happens in the 2150's and ends in 2161. In fact, this leads to the founding of the Fed and Starfleet. The Romulan conflict and what led up to iot could be a major story arc if the show is set early enough-especially considering we've had only the barest mention of it up to this point (Some ensign says his father or brother was killed during the conflict in the TOS episode where we first see that Romulans are Vulcan offshots.)
6. The possibility that the Vulcan may be T'pau could actually wark. When we saw her in "Amok Time" she was easily old enough to have served on a ship in the 22nd century. Lots of people seem to have a problem with this, but if you think about it, this might serve to explain McCoy's reaction of "Do you know who that is? That's T'pau. The only woman to turn down a seat on the Federation council." If you think about it, a Vulcan who oversaw human development in in space might logically recuse herself from any further influence. As for her station of Priestess, this could be be something she came to after her military/eplorative life.
7. The Klingons are another matter. The encyclopedia says that first contact happened in 2218. Although it doesn't say what Captain made contact, the time is 23rd centuy, not 22nd. Even so, I could understand why Berman and Company might want to use klingons. From a marketing standpoint, the Klingons have almost the same clout as the name Enterprise. People almost universally recognize them as being associated with the very core of what Star Trek is. Their presance in the pilot would serve two ends. First, as history has taught us, they will help boost ratings. Secondly, they will serve a lifeline of sorts for both casual viewers and twenty-fourth century fans alike, who may find themselves somewhat lost in what will hopefully be a new and different trek universe.
8. As to the look of the show, the inclusion of the gentlemen who designed the Phoenix is a plus in my opinion. If you look at his design work there, you can see that he has an eye for designing technology that looks grittily primitive, something that would work wonderfully for the series.
As for the Klingon forhead issue, Roddenberry and his production designers made that decision way back in '79 with TMP. They did this because they had a BUDGET. It's logical to assume that this is how they were intended to look from the start. I know what was said in "Trails and Tribble-ations", but they had to explain the difference away somehow. It's simple: Klingons look better this way! (Sorry about the rant, this particular part of the debate really pisses me off!)
If you've read this whole thing, thanks. I hope that my opinions, suspicions etc. have been somewhat interesting or informative. Please feel free to respond with your own thoughts.
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Forget the characters!
By zxfusion
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Everyone seems to forget that the "spaceships" as Berman calls them will SUCK!
Why can't an aesthetically pleasing ship like the Enterprise-E get its own show?
Oh yeah, almost forgot... a new star trek will mean more crappy CGI stuff... Berman, Braga, bring back the models!!!!! I don't care if they're more expensive...the CGI stuff looks like JUNK! Thanks for ruining the Enterprise-E in Insurrection!!!!
Sorry...just had to blow off some steam...
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Poor Scott
By Vulcan Sensei
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I loved Quantum Leap, and thought Bakula was great in it. That's why I'm sad that his career has come to this. Let's face it, the only person whose career was helped by Star Trek was Patrick Stewart, and that would have happened anyway. For Bakula to hook up with Berman and Braga... times must be tough.
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The Spock Argument is Incomplete!
By CGaijin
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Why does everyone keep harping on this "Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet" argument?
*If* the cast list is authentic, we should take notice that T'Pau is identified with the rank of "Sub-Commander." This has traditionally been a Romulan rank. Since the Romulans and Vulcan share a common culture and history, doesn't anyone here think that it could also historically be a Vulcan rank? Doesn't this connote an exchange program of some sort? Obviously, it doesn't mean that Spock isn't the first Vulcan in Starfleet.
Also, I don't think there would be a whole lot in the way of aliens if it takes place in the early days of interplanetary travel. It would make more sense if the show were *about* meeting new aliens and building a "federation of planets."
Actually, what I do wish is that the human crew contingent could more diverse. No hispanics? No Middle Eastern characters? That's more of a concern to me, actually...
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Cast concern
By who1
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Scott Bakula as Captain I can see. He's done sci-fi before, his name is well known enough (like Kate Mulgrew and Avery Brooks he had a major role on a major series that people will quickly remember). But the problem I have is with the now confirmed info that the series will have 5 human characters and only 2 aliens, one of whom may very well be (yawn) a Vulcan. Doesn't this make anyone else nervous? Star Trek may be about humanity, but as of late, it's been the human characters who have let the side down. While Kira, Odo, Quark and Garak (to name a few) had admirable development, Jake, Doctor Bashir and O'Brien were the characters DS9 had the most trouble working with. Sisko was damned dull for almost 3 years as well. Paris, Kim, Chakotay and even Janeway have suffered from a sore case of being bland and/or uninspiringm, while the Doctor and Seven of Nine have the best lines, the most intriguing stories, the most meaningful development. And since Tuvok was only fun when he was unstable or tortured etc., Series V would be foolish to include another bloody Vulcan unless s/he is unstable or tortured etc. (and then they'd risk an unfavorable comparison with Spock. We are very critical, and it's amazing how TPTB don't ever take notice.)
Anyway, I'm just not enthused about the prospect of 5 humans in the cast, especially considering the veteran writers for this show will be from Voyager, not DS9.
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I don't have...
By prometheus59650
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....a real problem with Scott Bakula as captain. (if true) He has always been a solid actor.
The prequel idea bothers me simply because there is too much room for continuity problems and we all know that Berman and Braga have never been big fans of that part of the creative process.
However, I'll reserve final judgement until I see the finish product.
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its funny
By Blok_Narpin
(philly_guy_pa@yahoo.com.yahoo.com) at 11:07:10 on April 03
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I always thought that Scott Bakula would make a great Captain on a Star Trek spinoff but jut thought it was the rantings of a fanboy mind. Never in a million years did I think it would happen. This prequel idea scares me . ESPECIALLY after the scathing review the script for the pilot got on Aint it Cool News. Still, these dorks hate anything and everything (and STar Trek in particular)so I dont know that they cant be treated as a reliable source. I HOPE this is good. I want so much for a great STar Trek spinoff to get the bad taste of Voyager out of my mouth. SO MUCH ROOM FOR CONTINUITY ERRORS.....(sigh)...couldnt they set the New Enterprise in the 25th Century instead of the early 23rd?? It has been stated on several occasions that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet. If the new Vulcan "Seven of Nine" they keep refering to is a Starfleet officer then continuity is already out the window. SHe could be an ambassador onboard the Enterprise as a liason between Earth and Vulcan. That would be ok. If she's starfleet though, they ALREADY shot the continuity to hell.
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Let The Genie Out
By Jean-Luc
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To quote Monty Scott, "It feels like ants crawlin' all over me body!" If this is true (and after all we've heard, I don't know why it wouldn't be)then Paramount should make an announcement soon. They're starting to lose containment!
I think Bakula would make a great captain. I've missed his presence on TV since Quantum Leap went off the air. He deserves another steady job. Hopefully he'll be a combo of Kirk, Picard, and Sam Beckett. He'll have to be a man of action, but with good diplomatic skills if he's going to make all those first contacts!
If the ship is called Enterprise (grrr) then they should digitally insert a picure of it into the DVD for The Motion Picture when Decker says "All these ships were named Enterprise". It won't happen of course, but it might help (a little) with continuity.
That other Trek site mentioned that Klingon first contact took place in 2218 which would obviously be the early 23rd century. Kirk's parents would definitely be around at that time, but only as middle to high school age kids. Just a thought.
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What is your level of anticipation for this fall's new Star Trek series ENTERPRISE?
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