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New Series Officially Part of UPN's Schedule: Wednesdays @ 8 PM (UPDATE 14:50 EDT: 8 PM Stands; Klingon Makeup Spoilers) |
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09:26:05 on May 17
By: Steve Krutzler
Dept: Enterprise
According to Cinescape, ENTERPRISE has officially been added to the UPN schedule. The program will be shown on Wednesday nights at 8 pm EST. 'Special Unit 2' has been picked up, too, and will follow ENTERPRISE at 9 pm EST.
This may well be the first of a mountain-load of information on ENTERPRISE coming out today when UPN holds its official announcement press conference for advertisers.
UPDATE: Conflicting news wires are listing ENTERPRISE in the 9 PM timeslot and the 8 PM timeslot. Perhaps everyone should just wait until UPN makes its announcements in a few minutes...
UPDATE 14:50 EDT: UPN has officially announced its schedule and the conflicts can be put to rest as ENTERPRISE, not "Star Trek: Enterprise", will air on UPN Wednesday's at 8:00 PM.
Also, a tipster checking in with Cinescape mentions that the pilot episode, "Broken Bow", will as previously rumored center on the crash landing of a Klingon ship. The tipster also adds that the Klingon makeup question will not be resolved, as Rick Berman and co. feel that if Gene Roddenberry had had the money in 1966, the original Klingons would've had the same forehead ridges that they have since Star Trek: The Motion Picture. |
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the contemporary design looks cooler anyway
By Bucky
() at 23:20:44 on May 17
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I was always hoping for an explanation. . .maybe they genetically engeniered some Klingons to look like that to ameke them fit in easily with the humans...but I dig the brow ridges anyway...and besides, seeing the Klingons as the bad guys again should be pretty freakin cool...
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The Klingon turtle head issue
By Dukat
() at 18:34:50 on May 17
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Aight, so the Klingons will have turtleheads.
Did we get really upset when Kor, Koloth and Kang all showed up with turtleheads? If you were going to get bitchy about inconsistency, you should have nailed Ron Moore and Ira Behr at that time, but we did not get in a tizzy. Those were actual characters in TOS that had the Elvis-hair, smooth forehead look.
We have seen Kahless's clone, and he is turtleheaded, as is statues that Worf has. So turtleheaded is the au natural look for klingon's, can you agree on that?
Roddenberry controlled the look of Klingons in TMP, and that carried through the movies, and into the sequel series. So if you don't buy Berman's line that if Roddenberry had the money in 66, they would have looked that way, fine, but it appears when he did have the money in 1978, he had no trouble giving them turtleheads.
So the griping is this, prior to 2270, Klingon's were smootheaded, and Roddenberry meant for it to be that way, and would have created it no other way. Somewhere around 2275, all Klingon's evolved to have turtleheads, Roddenberry said it was so, and it was good. No other explanation is possible. Well that is complete crap. Berman's explanation is fine, or you can take the explanation that Worf gives, in that Klingons don't wanna talk about why they have the smoothheads during the time of Kirk. Of course that still leaves open that at 150 years prior to Kirk, they had the turtleheads. Whatever Worf did not want to discuss could have happened after "Enterprise" and before Star Trek:TOS.
As for the name Enterprise, instead of Star Trek:Enterprise. I don't get why that was necessary, unless they want to try and get some people to watch it that would not watch a "Star Trek" If it does not say Based on "Star Trek by Gene Roddenberry" that will piss me off, but dropping the "Star Trek" in the title is fine. And you can say that only an idiot would watch "Enterprise" simply because it no longer has the name "Star Trek", but ya gotta remember, only idiots don't watch Trek now, so if you want to grow the viewing public, you gotta get some dummies.
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Matty......
By prometheus59650
() at 17:39:48 on May 17
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after careful consideration of your statements I have come to the conclusion that you are a lemming. You will be glued to the set come hell or high water to eagerly lap up whatever swill Berman and Braga produce with not a negative word to say about it.
Many of us here though care about quality more than we do the Star Trek name. We want to see a good show and Berman and Braga have failed to produce one in quite some time. DS9 achieved superiority only after Ira took over and B&B left him and the show the hell alone.
Voyager's quality has increased somewhat since B&B left it to others while they worked on this prequel, but it's still pretty stale. Voyager from the beginning has been largely mediocre due to the fact that the writers never made full use of the premise. We could've seen bizarre new aliens. We could've had recurring secondary characters who hitch a ride on Voyager for a month or a season. It could have been much different and much, much better.
What were we left with? We were left with Neelix as the resident alien window dressing with a make work job. Harry Kim as a weak- willed whiner who actually wonders why he hasn't made it to even Lt. (j.g) in seven years and a captain whose decisions swung from reasonable to borderline psychotic from week to week.
And the prequel promises more of the same since most of those that have given us seven years of mediocrity will be working on the new show.
We as fans have cause to be concerned. Berman and Braga have shown a consistent disregard for continuity and the ideas of good storytelling. This prequel is the ultimate means for Berman and the bunch to completely rewrite what Roddenberry has created and make it their own without any regard for its predecessors. I will give them credit for one statement: Roddenberry had said on several occasions that he had wanted Klingons to have the ridged craniums but couldn't afford it. If they somehow explain the change over the course of the series that'll be fine. All they have to say is that Klingons in the military chose to be altered to make espionage easier. But I'll wager that they won't.
I'll go so far as to say that we have a right to complain and voice our opinions, no matter how negative because without fans who care and voice their opinion Paramount has a dead franchise and Berman and Braga will have to look for other work.
I think B&B chose a prequel to force themselves into doing more character driven stories and rely less on technobabble solutions and technobabble problems like holodeck mishaps. I think, for that reason alone, a prequel has a decent chance. But with a prequel comes a greater responsibility to continuity that I don't think Berman cares about.
I wish them well and I will give the show a chance. But, unlike you, I will give voice to what I don't like. If it sucks, I'll say it sucks. If it's great I will be VERY happy. But I will not just eat up whatever they hand me because it's Star Trek. If you want to be a lemming more power to you, but don't critisize the fact that many of us here want, not just Star Trek, but GOOD Star Trek and aren't afraid to say so.
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RE: Klingon makeup
By Archangel
() at 16:42:57 on May 17
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I was expecting that, and for those reasons...
But, you know if they kept the TOS style for the Klingons in the prequel, such continuity would make the fans absolutely giddy.
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Enterprise Announcement
By CaptainChris
() at 14:19:00 on May 17
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COME ON ALREADY!!!
I cants stand it no longer!!! When is the announcement due?...Do we think we might get to see some pictures of the ship or anything...I hope so. Oh well, I'll just sit here pressing 'Refresh' until it comes up!
Ya think they moght drop the prequel idea at the last minute hmm?...Just wishful thinking I guess!
"In the 24th Century, we dont succumb to revenge, we have a more evolved sensibility"
"Bullshit! I saw your face when you shot those Borg on the Holodeck...you were almost enjoying it!"
"How dare you"
"Oh come on Captain, you're not the first man to get a thrill from murdering someone...I see it all the time!"
"GET OUT!"
"Or what? YOU'LL KILL ME, LIKE YOU KILLED ENSIGN LYNCH?!....WHERE WAS YOUR EVOLVED SENSIBILITY THEN?!"
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I am looking forward to this...
By Matty
() at 13:55:31 on May 17
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...I think that there is every chance that we could be in for some good old high adventure, rip roaring, edge of the frontier type stories.
But more than this I am getting heartily sick of all the B&B bashing and unsubstantiated rubbishing that is loitering around all new Enterprise postings. "Star Trek" has been dropped from the title - but hey the title is just peachy on its own; endeavour, adventure, striving for exciting goals - those are all synonyms for Enterprise.
Loss of Genes vision is another complaint - yer, fine for one type of audience, but the mass audience has matured and ideals have moved on. An amalgamation of all that was good TOS-wise / TNG-wise and a new sensibility should make for a ratings winner.
I wish all involved much success - unlike the moaning nay-sayers that I have seen round here recently, I will be tuned in and glued to the set.
The news series is bound to attract a new audience... and if we lose some of the sad old purists in the process - so what. I will leave them to their sad replica TOS uniforms and plastic ears. I will be happy and content watching some great television.
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With the brand new Starship Enterprise key to the success of the new series, what are your feelings?
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