Sort Controls: Newest Posts First Oldest Posts First Threaded Posts Nested Posts Flat Posts No Comments Start New Thread | Help! alien mixture By cultcross (command@cultcross.co.uk) at 05:17:43 on July 27 URL: http://www.cultcross.co.uk | User Info I reckon the pic is a collection of features from many aliens. As people have said, their are Cardassian ridges, but the forehead looks distinctly Ktarian ('The Game', TNG) These bits have been added to a pic of Rick Berman's interview. what do you reckon? [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Less is more. By Cymro B9 () at 16:28:18 on July 26 URL: | User Info Hasn't anybody in the makeup/design section ever considered that at least one of the universe's many humanoid races will have something less on their faces than we humans do, rather than a whole lot of useless cranial ridges more. What about an alien that has no nose, that "smells" with his toung, or his skin has tastebuds over it so that it can taste without danger of poison. You could cover up the nose or eyes with rubber, the mouth would be an acoustic problem, as well as hard to breath through, which is fine coz everyone needs a mouth. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] B5, Farscape, Andromeda has better aliens by Unicron @ 10:02:11 EDT on 27 Jul RE: B5, Farscape, Andromeda has better aliens by Starscream @ 00:33:05 EDT on 1 Aug RE: Less is more. by Axaday @ 18:24:00 EDT on 26 Jul They don't have to be that creative... By salander3 () at 14:42:04 on July 26 URL: | User Info Just copy someone form Farscape or B5, for crying out loud. I'm just tired of aliens that look like humans with crap on their faces! [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Phlox.... Neelix.... Cardassian....? By TOS4EVER () at 07:56:27 on July 26 URL: | User Info Okay... I will kind of go where the other posters have gone before.... but I will hold final judgement for the first episode... I REALLY would have liked to see a previously known race, like an Andorian, Tellerite or TOS era UFP member alien on board as the doctor.... [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: Phlox.... Neelix.... Cardassian....? by Tad @ 13:26:21 EDT on 26 Jul Hm By Crest () at 07:29:00 on July 26 URL: | User Info First- I donīt think that this picture shows a finished make-up. Second- If this is realy the Doctor and if we will see him like in the series, this is the first detail I donīt like. I think so... Third- This is for one special person: DONTīT PANIC! Iīve got a sense of humour. Itīs part of my job an usually I get my money from that. Donīt judge me on some few lines... [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Neelix and Dukat after a transporter accident. By GustavoLeao () at 21:42:27 on July 25 URL: http:// | User Info Doctor Neekat anyone ? Or Dulix ? Shesshh. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: Neelix and Dukat after a transporter accident. by Heavy DMC @ 05:48:46 EDT on 26 Jul big deal By dj () at 20:35:57 on July 25 URL: | User Info So if the Enterprise crew has this guy running around the ship on a regular basis, why is it they are supposedly so SHOCKED to see a Klingon for the first time? Is it just the long hair? Personally, I don't see a dramatic difference between the two races -- especially from the point of view of a 22nd century human. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: big deal by Axaday @ 08:06:44 EDT on 26 Jul Here's why.. SLIGHT spoiler by Clunk @ 03:44:44 EDT on 26 Jul I keep telling you... By dreadnaught (stephen@winmarinc.com) at 19:20:02 on July 25 URL: | User Info No one listens! I will repeat myself here again. Berman and Co. are not going to give us anything new and fresh. "They are sadly going where they have gone before..." They have just put a different ship, time frame and cast onto the scene. They have nothing different than what they have been giving us for the past several years. Fro whatever reasons they are incapable of giving us anything but what they have been giving us. I'm not trying to insult anyone here. It is just a reality. This is so sad it is so ridiculous. They keep pitching this bull to us that this show is going to be different and we are all supposed to believe it. That guy doesn't look like Garick does he? What a joke! I don't! Same old stuff! It's so sad to see Trek in the toilet with no hope of getting out. Oh well...I'm sure I'll here from ensign ro-ro your boat on this one. Signed A greatly dissappointed Trekker. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: I keep telling you... by dreadnaught @ 22:21:07 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by MW @ 10:13:52 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by Cymro B9 @ 15:37:01 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by MW @ 18:06:44 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by dreadnaught @ 16:26:34 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by Cymro B9 @ 16:48:33 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by dreadnaught @ 22:19:05 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by dreadnaught @ 22:12:40 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by pye-guy @ 12:51:21 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by MW @ 18:16:46 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by pye-guy @ 00:26:05 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by dreadnaught @ 08:30:00 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by pye-guy @ 12:44:01 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by pye-guy @ 00:21:31 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I keep telling you... by dj @ 20:50:37 EDT on 25 Jul Maybe he's a Kazon! By pye-guy () at 18:19:19 on July 25 URL: | User Info I don't know how or why, but couldn't it be at least possible? It looks awfully close I think. :) [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Please recycle. By Cymro B9 () at 17:57:49 on July 25 URL: | User Info the following is for the ENTERPRISE team: For god's sake people, Enterprise is not in the 24th century! Will you please stop recycling designs from the 24th century, first the ship, then the uniforms (coloured sholders - tres voyager!), and now you're ripping off Cardassian makeup! I imagined Phlox to be sort of blue-green and scalie, with sort of a chamelion kind of feature that lets him change colour (as well as be all double jointed and stuff).I'm finished. Please do not take any part of this comment as an insult as it is intended to be purely a documentation of my thoughts and opinions. ______________ _____ {______________D _____ /_ _ _ _ \ _____ || [ __________________] || / / \_____/ ____||____/ / ( || |(- ============’ NCC-1701 was the first enterprise, not the nx-01! (although it sucked a bit) Here's an Xtra tip: Spaceships don't make a noise when moving through space or Xploding, there's no sound without air. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] MATTER, not air. by Axaday @ 08:02:26 EDT on 26 Jul RE: MATTER, not air. by Cymro B9 @ 14:26:23 EDT on 26 Jul RE: MATTER, not air. by Axaday @ 18:26:57 EDT on 26 Jul There Didn't Used To Be Sound by Jean-Luc @ 19:23:34 EDT on 25 Jul RE: There Didn't Used To Be Sound by Gamera @ 19:30:18 EDT on 25 Jul "Dune" by Brikar @ 21:01:31 EDT on 25 Jul RE: Please recycle. by drewb2003 @ 18:43:54 EDT on 25 Jul I wonder.... By Hoofer () at 15:16:46 on July 25 URL: | User Info Hmmm, DS9 is near the cardassian border and in the pilot of DS0 they mention that it's right near the frontier of federation space as in very very far from Earth. So, the federation maybe didn't know about the Cardassians in Kirks time and certainly not in this time line. It is plausable that this doctor ere is was on those "Oooh, I'm the only known member of my species, I don't know where I came from, lost as an orphan" sort a thing. Of course the viewers all know where he came from. Could be cool, or frustrating. Or it could just lack of imagination in the make-up department "We need to think of a brand new completely unique Alien." "How about identicle to humans in everyway except for a green spot on their chin?" "Fantastic!!" Hoofer www.geocities.com/the_real_hoofer [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: I wonder.... by Murray @ 16:41:58 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I wonder.... by Hoofer @ 18:14:22 EDT on 25 Jul Hmmm By salander3 () at 14:18:11 on July 25 URL: | User Info I guess I have to wait and see the final product, but I was hoping for something different. I was thinking of Phlox as being bald, orange skinned, with dark spots, and some kind of "sheen"...kinda like a salamander. Add to that some yellow cat-eye contact lenses.... Don't know...aren't people tired cranial ridges? There have to be better ways to make an alien... [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Yawn.. by who1 @ 17:26:57 EDT on 25 Jul Is John Billingsley...? By Daniel () at 14:11:23 on July 25 URL: | User Info I know that this may be tough to answer, but is John Billingsley the customer in the cell phone commercial who says "enough with the cool, more about the features"? Kind of a nerdy character...anyone...anyone? [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] yeah, that's him in that commercial by DiggsBiggly @ 02:45:05 EDT on 26 Jul topic By Kyle (kgavin@speakeasy.org) at 14:00:08 on July 25 URL: | User Info There's a thread on the Treknation board saying this could be a photoshop job. Could be maybe? link [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: topic by Cymro B9 @ 18:34:02 EDT on 25 Jul RE: topic by Sir Lawrence @ 17:53:42 EDT on 25 Jul What a disappointment By Xax () at 13:38:10 on July 25 URL: | User Info My God, that make-up looks like ass, and WTF is up with the hair-do? Here's hoping the guy dies off in the pilot ;-) [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: What a disappointment by Axaday @ 07:54:45 EDT on 26 Jul RE: What a disappointment by pye-guy @ 18:12:22 EDT on 25 Jul RE: What a disappointment by pye-guy @ 18:10:26 EDT on 25 Jul Horrible By Mr. Peabody () at 13:37:51 on July 25 URL: | User Info He looks like some turd that did a guest-shot on Everybody Loves Raymond. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Here's a comparison By Kyle (kgavin@speakeasy.org) at 13:24:39 on July 25 URL: | User Info Here's a comparison I did with Garek and Phlox. link [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Color By Starscream () at 13:06:20 on July 25 URL: | User Info Kinda boring. Either Michael Westmore doesn't like to create non-brown colored aliens very often or Rick Berman doesn't like the idea of a red or blue skinned alien gracing the screens every week. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] Maybe he is a Cardassian By dragonfire () at 12:05:02 on July 25 URL: | User Info I don't recall if TNG or DS9 ever established when first contact was made with the Cardassians. What we know for sure is that the Federation was at war with Cardassia sometime early in Cheif O'Brien's Starfleet career (The Wounded). And that at one time, the Cardassian's were a peaceful and spiritual people with a fine appreciation for art, architecture and archeology (Chain of Command Part 2). Could be interesting to see there is an agreeable relationship with Earth pre-Ferderation. It would also be VERY cool to see Bajor in it's hey day... before the Cardassian's occupied and raped the planet. A thriving Bajor and peaceful Cardassia could actually make for some interesting drama if the writers take into account what is to come. A tradegy that doesn't know it's a tragedy. Reyes [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: Maybe he is a Cardassian by Dancal @ 20:36:56 EDT on 25 Jul I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show By Steve Krutzler (s_krutzler@trekweb.com) at 11:35:10 on July 25 URL: http://trekweb.com/brittandsteve | User Info I know it's way too premature to think something like this, but am I the only who looks at this picture and aside from the completely unimaginitive makeup, thinks that Phlox may be the loser of ENT? I just don't want this character to be making stupid faces and idiotic jokes week after week and make us embarrassed for his scenes. That could make this show lose credibility with non-Trekkers REAL fast. Also, has anyone considered that maybe this makeup is intentional and his "exotic species" will actually turn out to be the Cardassians? I don't know for what reason they'd do that, but I think the makeup is quite derivative. --- -Steve Krutzler ==V/-/== Rocks. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Axaday @ 07:50:15 EDT on 26 Jul I hope he's not used as a clown too by Archangel @ 01:18:43 EDT on 26 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Cymro B9 @ 18:06:42 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Chris Pike @ 16:30:18 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by veritascp @ 13:49:44 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Cymro B9 @ 18:17:08 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Axaday @ 07:46:41 EDT on 26 Jul Could be interesting if he were Cardassian by SJChucky @ 12:18:31 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Tad @ 12:02:30 EDT on 25 Jul RE: I hope Phlox doesn't ruin the show by Brikar @ 16:50:17 EDT on 25 Jul Doesn't look complete... By toasteroven () at 10:39:36 on July 25 URL: | User Info It looks like only the facial appliances are done... and I doubt an alien would be wearing a blue checkered shirt. Probably a shot of Billingsly half-way through the makeup process.... I remember seeing a pic of Michael Dorn half-way through.. and he looked nothing like Worf yet. BTW.. if you go frame per frame in the scene with Tucker walking into the alien bar in the "Rock Promo" that everybody is buzzing about, you can vaugely make out a very strange looking dude in an Enterprise uniform behind him with a gigantic head... could this be Phlox with full makeup? (I downloaded the 5MB version from the German site before it went dead... can't really make it out on the 1MB version) "No matter where you go... there you are." [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: Doesn't look complete... by Steve Krutzler @ 11:26:03 EDT on 25 Jul RE: Doesn't look complete... by Gamera @ 16:01:50 EDT on 25 Jul RE: Doesn't look complete... by Cymro B9 @ 18:04:26 EDT on 25 Jul Cardassian? By Aaron Nadler (aatrek@aol.com) at 10:12:45 on July 25 URL: | User Info Look, I am looking forward to Enterprise with an excited and open mind, giving some slack to the whole continuity issues, but come on. Before I even read the article, the first thing that popped into my head was, "Oh, God. Is he going to be a Cardassian?" I understand that after 15 years of modern-day Trek alien designs are starting to resemble one another, but this looks like a Cardassian with a bad haircut. I'm sure I'll warm to the character once we see some completed footage, but I think Michael Westmore really dropped the ball on this one. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: Cardassian? by The Borg King @ 10:54:20 EDT on 25 Jul Phlox By Azrael (maincomputer@startrekmail.com) at 08:37:00 on July 25 URL: | User Info He looks a bit like Neelix mark 2. Maybe it's just the quality of the picture but I don't see the Cardassian resemblance. [ Reply to This | Parent Comment ] RE: Phlox by Admiral Komack @ 15:01:03 EDT on 25 Jul RE: Phlox by Steve Krutzler @ 08:51:58 EDT on 25 Jul RE: Phlox by Azrael @ 09:10:49 EDT on 25 Jul

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