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Posted: 00:28:08 on February 21 2003
By: Steve Krutzler
Dept: Enterprise | stenterprise.com
TV Guide's March 1st, 2003 issue, available on newsstands Monday, February 24th, asks the ubiquitous question of late: can STAR TREK be saved? According to a press release provided TrekWeb, the magazine talks with ENTERPRISE producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga about the recent decline in ratings for the series and the poor performance of STAR TREK NEMESIS at the domestic box office.

According to the release, "TV Guide® magazine takes a look at what’s wrong with the struggling Star Trek franchise, which is suffering through declining ratings for Enterprise and a recent disappointing box office showing for 'Nemesis,' the most recent film."

Citing the statistic that ENTERPRISE's ratings are down 24% since last season, the mag quotes Braga as saying, "What can you say? We’re bummed." Braga says the show is headed for more more grand storytelling and "epic challenges…that better exploit the sense of awe and danger."

Berman says fans can expect a clear change in direction for ENTERPRISE in the future: "Let’s just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into."

The exec is optimistic about the future of the feature film franchise post-NEMESIS, saying future films will happen eventually.

"I doubt because our box office fell off on ‘Nemesis’ that it’s going to be the end of Star Trek films,” he says. “I can’t imagine numerous other movies won’t occur."

As usual, Berman hints that future movies might involve a mixed cast from all the various STAR TREK series, but says no discussions are currently under way.

The issue will hit stands Monday and fans will be able to sound off on the magazine's web site with their own suggestions for STAR TREK's future at www.tvguide.com/trek beginning then.

In related news, Berman also speaks in the new issue of the UK's Star Trek Monthly about both the future of the features and the ENTERPRISE ratings.

"There's a possibility that the time has come to either bring in a new group, which could be totally new, or bring in a group that is from one of the other series," Berman says in excerpts available at Sci-Fi Pulse. "Or mix and match - we could do a film with some of the characters from Next Generation mixed in with the others - Enterprise would probably be difficult because it takes place 200 years before. If you were going to mix up the casts it would be difficult to get the continuity, but in Star Trek there's always time travel. I think one of the keys to the Star Trek movies is that every one of them has taken place on a ship called Enterprise. I'm not so sure we'll jump to another ship. But again, we really haven't put a moments' thought into the next film."

Berman also says it's important to take ratings fall offs in stride. After all, viewership of network television has eroded across the board in recent years.

"People talk about the ratings having dipped, but you have to remember that any television series in it's first season recieves a ridiculous amount of promotion - magazine covers, television stories, Entertainment Weekly covers, TV Guide covers. We had two TV Guide covers before the show even went on air. So, there's always a big spike of ratings in the beginning and then they always drop off. That's historical for every series we've done, including The Next Generation. When you get rid of the first dozen episodes of the first season the ratings have, in effect, stayed the same."

"The other thing is that you look at the numbers, the ratings in the States, of the six broadcast networks, including the three big ones, they've all had a huge ratings fall off. That's due to Cable and Satallite, which have taken over. There are hundreds of stations that are available to people now - there used to be only three."

You can read more from Berman's interview, in which he discusses ENTERPRISE stars Scott Bakula and Jolene Blalock here.

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Season One (2001-2002)
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By Captatled ( ) at 22:26:13 on March 01 2003
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It's real easy to fix ENT...get rid of Brannon Braga and get Ron Moore to take his place..

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Regarding Berman's so-called "changes" to ENT
By Jadziamidala ( ) at 08:53:16 on February 22 2003
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>>>Berman says fans can expect a clear change in direction for ENTERPRISE in the future: "Let’s just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into."<<<

Blah blah blah...we've heard this before. What now? Are the valiant NX-01 gang going to be sent to the 31st century commanding the Enterprise-Z timeship? Are they going to have Rosie O'Donnell join the cast as a female Tellarite bartender who dishes out useless and cliched advice? Are they going to steal a Borg cube and travel to a different galaxy every week, featuring Suzie Plaxon as a deassimilated female Hirogen hunter and The Rock as a curmudgeonly Jem'Hadar?

I know what change I would like to see...a change in who is running the show.

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I've got to say...
By Josiah Rowe ( ) at 02:32:27 on February 22 2003
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...I'm more excited by the TV Guide cover story (the new season of Six Feet Under) than anything to do with Enterprise. Does that mean anything about the current state of Trek? On the one hand, it says a lot that a fan like me is so uninterested (despite the recent upturn in the show's quality) ; on the other hand, maybe Berman has a point about cable stealing audiences? I certainly know that if Enterprise and Six Feet Under were on at the same time, I'd be watching SFU and taping Enterprise.

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Enterprise: New Directions for season 3
By Blok_Narpin ( philly_guy_pa@yahoo.com.yahoo.com) at 13:43:37 on February 21 2003
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Ok, I have some thoughts. First off, Farscape and Buffy will both be gone next season. I think Berman would be very, very wise to get some of those writers and make-up artists on board Enterprise. ESPECIALLY Jane Espenson. Buffy consistantly has the best writing on TV. If those writers came to Enterprise it could only be good.


Next, I was thinking that Television has changed in the past few years. The style of individual weekly episodes is almost a dinosaur. The best shows on TV now use long storyarcs. Angel, Buffy, 24, the Sopranos, and many other popular shows have switched to this method of storytelling. It's a better format because it's more like real life. Life continues from week to week. The challanges we face, and things that happen to us continue to impact us. Things don't get tied up nice and neat every week. This being said I think Enterprise should switch to longer storyarchs. Now with ratings declining it seems they really need to do something BIG to catch the audience's attention again. I think season three should focus on the Tempral Cold War erupting into an all out Tempral WAR.


Now we would have a war being fought over TIME. How exciting would that be? It's been hinted that there are several fronts in the cold war. 22nd and 31st century are both major players. Well there is one sure fire ratings gimmick that never fails -STUNT CASTING.

Don't let the words scare you. There is nothing wrong with stunt casting. It's just a means of getting viewers to tune in. If the story is well written and well told then it's just fine. What if the 24th century was a front in the war? What if Picard came in as a player? Like Anthony Head on Buffy he could have a contract where he would appear in 10 or so episodes throught the season.

The possibilities are endless. In the third season finale the war could end and season 4 could focus on Archer trying to pick up the pieces, while trying to keep information about the future away from the higher ups at Starfleet and the Vulcans (so the time stram isn't poluted).

This is just an idea, BUT it's big, it's epic, and it's a great Sci-Fi concept. With THE RIGHT WRITING it could be great.

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Quotes like this...
By cooper2000 ( ) at 12:29:08 on February 21 2003
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are whats wrong with Berman...
Berman also says it's important to take ratings fall offs in stride. After all, viewership on network television has occurred across the board in recent years.

Ive heard this from him before blaming too much competition and then avoicing that it is really that Trek has lost creativity.
I have also seen in the past when they say they are going to be changes that there are but what they mean by changes are more action and sexuality.
I still have no faith in what this guy is saying anymore.

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Can Shatner help?
By Big Hands ( ) at 12:20:47 on February 21 2003
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Shatner could be pulled out of the Nexus and team up with Picard and Spock to save the universe yet again. A mixed cast might be cool. Enterprise IS getting better. Things always look worse than they are.

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Isn't It Funny...
By Toroca ( ) at 08:57:18 on February 21 2003
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...how Berman's memory is somewhat selective...

He mentions that every series since TNG ha sstarted off with a bang and then lost ratings.

What he doesn't mention is that TNG is the only modern Trek series that had STELLAR ratings. It's the one that for the most part bucked the trend of a slow, steady decline.

Every successive series has had a lower initial ratings spike, and a faster and more severe decline in the ratings. DS9's ratings were never as strong as TNG's, but it's rating were consistently 25% to 50% higher than Voyager's across the seven year run. They declined slowly and steadily. Voyager's declined slightly faster and farther. Enterprise has gone lower yet.

The decline is no surprise considering the general quality level of Enterprise and Voyager. Subpar for both, especially compared to DS9 and TNG. Both series have had their moments, but those moments come fewer and further between than TNG and DS9's did.

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"What can you say? We’re bummed."
By Alawi ( ) at 05:22:16 on February 21 2003
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Braga: "What can you say? We’re bummed."

No, mate the fans are bummed you two leaches are in charge of the franchise.

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B&B!!Lets get them fired!
By shakamaker ( ) at 04:12:28 on February 21 2003
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Ok People,Ive posted on here before and now there are more and more people shouting for B&B's (Berman and Braga) Heads!
The Future of Trek looks doomed unless these men are escorted from the paramount lot!
New Creative talent is needed,someone that loves Trek for what it is,Jerry Taylor and Mike Piller were pushed out by Berman who wanted it for his self!
We need to act now!
We need an email address at paramount where we can bombard them,to pass on via email and get them gone!
Anyone wanna help??

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ENT Future
By Ashe111 ( ) at 01:15:46 on February 21 2003
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I was thinking about what Berman said concerning a clear change in direction for ENTERPRISE in the future: "Let’s just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into."

I sat here and thought about and I think I have an idea of what's on the drawing board.

To boldly go.. To the 31st Century.

Makes sense to me, need a new "unexplored" location with familiar fan favorites and a pre-defined history to build a solid base on and the ability to show incredible technology and advancement at the same time. Sounds like "the future" perfectly fits into the equation.

Also gives me the feeling that B & B have been watching Farscape to try and replenish their empty creativity wells.

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Time for a change in leadership (if you can call it that)
By Deslok ( hammond_ecks@hotmail.com) at 00:51:12 on February 21 2003
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Can Star Trek survive in spite of the contributions made by B&B, that is the real question.

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Regarding Feature Film...
By Captain Archery ( ) at 00:41:25 on February 21 2003
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Specifically regarding Nemesis, I think one of the things I found poor about the movie was that it ended too short. There was closure to the some of the small TNG arcs but not enough closure as far as the Nemesis storyline itself goes.

Practically the first two acts of the film seemed like a "build up" of what could have been the start a giant movie arc with Reman & Romulans and of course Shinzon. What I mean by giant movie arc is that this particular storyline might have been much more successful had it been in the form of a trilogy or a continuing storyline so there could be more room to explain the story. Covering all that content in one movie was too much to take in, especially the seemingly quick stabbing demise of Shinzon which seemed all too short.

Copying the concept of ST2,ST3, and ST4 is not exactly what I'm getting at. All I am saying is that going away from the solo storied movies might not be a bad thing to do right now. It would ad suspense and keep people guessing for what's to come. In any event it could be successful for Star Trek if done right.

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Star Trek should've ended on May 23, 2001
By Johnny ( jlewald@indiana.edu) at 23:51:35 on February 20 2003
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The Voyager finale should have marked the indefinate end of Star Trek. "Nemesis" should've been released as is, but "Enterprise" should have waited before hitting the airwaves, giving Trek fans (and writers more importantly) some time to breathe.

After all, STAR TREK HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO BREATHE IN 15 YEARS!!

After a while, anticipation could have built up for any new Star Trek series (like "Enterprise"), which would really have "re-invigorated" the franchise. ENT should have hit the airwaves either Fall 2003 or Winter/Fall 2004.

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Every film took place on Enterprise?
By Red Shirt ( ) at 22:18:20 on February 20 2003
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Guess he missed Voyage Home. I could go for a non-Ent based movie AGAIN.

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are changes really going to happen?
By CaptM ( ) at 21:56:39 on February 20 2003
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They talk about more epic challenges, but at the end of the article, Berman's making excuses for why ratings are low: it's "historical" for Trek to have low ratings in its second season, and everybody's facing low ratings, and other nonsense. He still seems to be in denial, so I'm not sure that we should expect anything to change. After all, didn't Berman state before Enterprise that the show would be completely different? Didn't happen.

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Tormented Space
By Maestro ( ) at 20:37:47 on February 20 2003
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By "more more grand storytelling and epic challenges…that better exploit the sense of awe and danger" I hope they mean more focus on the long running arcs.

And maybe stories where Archer and Co experience DEFEAT.

Let’s just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into

Sortof like how Farscape left the Uncharted territories into (groan) Tormented Space?

But hopefully the revision of the mission involves a the Romulans or the Tholians.

I really kindof picture the Romulans as the glue holding everything together: FutureGuy would turn out to be part of a future Tal Shiar, and the Romulan threat would bring the Vulcans and Andorians together.

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Can't Wait
By Jean-Luc ( cooljeanluc@go.com) at 20:21:50 on February 20 2003
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to see Deus' version of this one!

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Revisions
By Captain Archery ( ) at 20:05:58 on February 20 2003
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"Berman says fans can expect a clear change in direction for ENTERPRISE in the future: "Let’s just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into.""


How about a revision in the show's main title theme as well? Make it something more musically attracting. DS9 did the same move by jazzing up their theme when they start their 4th season.

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Hmmm.
By timmer33 ( ) at 19:36:43 on February 20 2003
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Frankly, I would be stunned if Paramount isn't debating whether they should fire Berman. His ENT - while a good concept - has backfired recently. "A NIGHT IN SICKBAY" -- worst Trek episode EVER (including "Spock's Brain"). They need new blood. PLUS, trek fans are so mad at Berman, it might help ratings just by firing the guy.

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  • RE: Hmmm. by Scorned @ 22:13:30 EDT on 20 Feb
    • RE: Hmmm. by one_2_three @ 23:52:18 EDT on 20 Feb
      • RE: Hmmm. by cooper2000 @ 12:57:08 EDT on 21 Feb
      • RE: Hmmm. by Scorned @ 23:58:47 EDT on 20 Feb
Interesting..
By Flake ( flaky@ukonline.co.uk) at 19:19:21 on February 20 2003
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I am glad they intend to take Enterprise in a new direction, because the one they are/where heading in had gotten very stale and tedious. The last few episodes & the recent Borg announcement combined with Berman and Braga apparently 'waking up' I am certainly having some renewed optimisum in Enterprise.

As for the movies I am not impressed at all. The thoughts of a mixed cast movie are awful and an Enterprise movie is almost as bad - They must take the movies in a different direction to the TV shows and have them more accessible. The only way to do this is to either revisit the original cast (animation/cgi/recast) or to bring in an entirely new cast on the Enterprise B/C or even post Picard E/F - The people that pull Bermaga's strings will be aware of the limited appeal of post-TNG spinoffs and will surely push for a more accessible film with the potential to breakout to everyone.

Thumbs up for Enterprise

Thumbs down for any mixed cast movie premise, both financially and creatively.

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Changes
By BWilliams ( BWillNCC1701E@webtv.net) at 19:10:21 on February 20 2003
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So Rick Berman thinks that by mixing in cast members and elements from the other Trek series is a good idea? We see thus far what the response has been about B&B's idea of bringing back the Borg.

Hey, I have a change that might actually work: let's get B&B kicked out from Star Trek! It worked when the fans rallied against Harve Bennett's Starfleet Academy idea. That's the biggest change that the series can make, and for the better. (And having smarter and stronger stories can't hurt, either.)

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