...and only telling *part* of the story, does not make for an unbiased article. Berman and Braga both had much more to say about the new season, but it just didn't suit the author's needs to inform us of that.

Wake up, people! All news is propaganda of one form or another. Don't rely on only one source before you form your opinions.

I don't.

Bring on Season 3!!!

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That's it! I'm done with Trek.

Braga's, "I don't think creatively we were doing anything wrong," and Berman's, "sexy stuff" comments show how clueless they are.

Maybe no one cares (not Viacom anyway), but this is my official announcement that I'm never ever going to watch this show again. Goodbye, fellow fans!


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I find it hilarious how devoted some of you guys are in regards to your constant criticism of Rick and Brannon.

Same handles, same comments, same sarcasm--like clockwork. :)

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Good character development? Continuing story arcs? Producing quality television?

No. None of that matters. Show quality, character development, continuing story lines and good writing won't fix Star Trek. Berman is right, Sex fixes everything

The show is deteriorating, the fans are growing smaller and smaller each day, Star Trek needs to get out before things get worse.

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The comments from you people are insane, many times moreso than Berman or Braga's. Why dont you wait for the season to start before you go out on your internet fanboy insanity rants. B&B are not the problem as much as the never-to-be-pleased "fans" are.

Trekweb has devolved, the inmates are running the asylum. I guess the constant rants and raves are semi amusing, but this place is now 99% bitching and whining. Oh well.

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Guys, we need Les Moonves's email so we can contact him directly. I don't think the real people in charge are reading these message boards. Mr. Moonves needs to know how B&B are destroying Trek. Someone else like Leonard Nimoy or Harve Bennett or Ronald Moore needs to be in charge of ENT. Why would I want to tune in to ENT to see them focus on the Xindi??? I don't care about the Xindi! Arghh!!

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uote:"Producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga were also in attendance, and according to Ausiello, both "look[ed] miserable to be there — especially Braga." Braga said the show will be more fast-paced and action-packed with focus on the Xindi this season, and denied any creative fault for the show's flailing ratings numbers."

hahahahaha looked miserable. What do you expect? These are the two guys who just killed Trek. How come someone didn't nail these two idiots with some good questions?

The entire show is going to be "Xindi" based now. The Xindi, a race of beings never mentioned in TOS or TNG. It is good to see the "prequel" series showing good continuity.


Quote:""I don't think creatively we were doing anything wrong," Braga told reporters.

Then please do tell me why Trek sucks now? Why are the fans gone? Why are the ratings bad? Why did the movie tank? Please do tell "all mighty Braga". Let me guess, it is everyones fault except you and berman. Clearly a case of denial. A man who is living in the little fantasy world in his mind talentless mind.

Braga..what a fucking ass!


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B&B just don't understand who it is that watches, or as it may be now , watched Star Trek. Fans of the show are not just the stereotypical geeks that still live in their mother's basemetn. Most fans I know are a bit geeky, but are basically just very intelligent people that want to be entertained. Trek has never been soley about action and sex. Sure TOS had it's fair share of those ingredients but that is not what made it a good show. In fact when I watch TOS the scenes with Kirk fighting or getting a chick make me laugh because they are so cheesey.

What ENT needs is more development of the crew and their relationships with one another, more stories about the birth of the Federation and the Romulan Wars, and more stories that are intellectually gratifying because they explore some unique scifi idea or some really interesting moral concept. ENT does not need more sex, especially in the way B&B are probably going to add it ontop of the typical dull ENT story.



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This is my first ever post to a Star Trek board. I have finally had enough.

On one level I can understand why they would say they didn't think they did anything wrong last season. It was after all a press meeting where they were trying to promote the new season. But as other people have mentioned it also stinks of sheer arrogance on the part of the people in question. Star Trek, that most beloved of shows is being slowly driven into the ground. It's not because of a lack of enthusiasm on the part of the actors, the designers or (probably) the majority of the writers. It's quite simply because such enthusiasm is being sucked out of these people by a desire to play it safe, to stick to what the producers see as tried and tested methods of story telling. I can hardly believe the producers keep plugging a new wig and outfit of T’pol as though that in itself will make people want to give up an hour of their evening and sit and watch a science fiction show that is meant to be about ideas, emotions, adventure, excitement and above all - wonder. Years ago I seem to remember Gene Roddenberry saying he didn't worry about ever running out of stories to tell because his show was set in an environment - the galaxy - where anything was possible. That as a statement could not be more true. Yet the producers seem unwilling to let loose, to 'imagine' what might be out in the galaxy, to create stories that actually mean something to people. Who, honestly, cares if Archer (or any other crew member) is stuck on another planet for an hour where he/she has to come up with some way of escape? Who cares if T’pol is playing with emotions? It's been done countless times before in Star Trek. Who cares if Archer has conflicting ideas about how to lead his mission? What we care about are ideas that are new and challenging, that make us, as viewers and followers of what used to be the best sci-fi show on TV sit up and THINK. I remember when I was in school watching the Next Gen episode Relics. It was a great show in part because of Scotty, but what really got me (and I guess others too) going was the idea of a Dyson Sphere. 'WOW!, a structure covering a sun - cool!' That episode worked because there was real and genuine sci-fi imagination WITH good character interaction. The same with the 'Inner Light' or the episode where the Enterprise races around the galaxy looking for bits of a puzzle to explain the genetic links between Humans, Romulans, Klingons etc. THAT is what Star Trek is about - Not the new curls in T’pol's wig.

I used to love Star Trek here in the UK. I used to come home from school wondering what would be on the next episode. I loved many of the movies. I loved characters that mattered, that were fresh with ideas. It is a love I have not felt in a long time.



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I know this will only be one of the "changes" made for next year -- and I'm still holding out hope that the new direction will work out. But I have to question Braga's CONTINUAL obsession with sex, being sexy, sensual feelings, etc. Now look, there's nothing wrong with a bit of this per say -- look at TOS's miniskirts or Troi's original costume, but give me a break. It seems like 2/3 of all the interviews we see here have them talking about this as if it were something important.

If I want a show with an emphasis on sex, Trek is not where I turn to. Trek is supposed to be for more mature, intellectual audiances. It's supposed to tell at least mostly stories that make you think. But recently they keep talking as if they're primarially targeting teenage males who are still in puberty. I'm sorry, but Trek needs to be appealing more to the somewhat older viewers and women, too. They're too narrowly focusing on one demographic, and this obsession with sensuality is a prime example of this.

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I hate to say it but must agree with the other posts.
Enterprise, however, still has life in it but has failed to take advantage of the moral differences of it's time period. T'pol sexing it up (however nice) is no way to solve creative problems.
Stop-gap measures don't work with any show and especially trek.

The show could go on but what is needed is a behind-the-scenes team that actually feels like they have an important job (not two guys who think they are the alpha and omega). B&B have gotten very stale and seem to think that the old formula will continue to work because of a tremendous fan base.

I get a feeling that these two guys sit back and think---
"those little geeks will eat up whatever we give them, and like it."

Like anyone else we only eat that which is tasty. B&B have become too comfortable and as a result so has trek.
Enterprise is following one hell of a legacy, which in my opinion means it has to work even harder to earn it's stripes.
The show needs to take more risks in concept, setting and character morals. Making the show sexier is not ( I repeat) not a risk.

In the end the franchise needs to brake free to survive, or everything startrek from here on in should have "...attack of the clones..." inserted in the title. Enterprise can still provide entertainment but only through original ideas and concepts, otherwise let trek rest in peace.



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Thats made me so angry - THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A CLUE!!! They have no idea, they took the two WORST people from the TNG days and handed them the franchise! *c alm*

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For the second time this summer I am literally wincing at what Trek has come to. It's a parody, a laughing stock, a shining example of how NOT to run a franchise. Did anyone see the cover of TV Guide _ It said "Forget Trek! Stargate SG-1 is the best sci-fi show...."

I'm beginning to think UPN would do better to make a TV show about a failing TV show and the efforts to get the "dumb monkeys" to watch.

The fact that BB keep mentioning sex appeal is downright embarrassing. There are a million other problems that are much more central to the show's demise. The fact that BB say the low ratings don't reflect poor creative choices or failings is utterly ridiculous. All this does is convince people that the show isn't really changing and that the creators don't even know what is wrong with it.
If they came forward and said we know what's wrong...we understand what's wrong...and we're fixing what's wrong _ I might actually be persuaded to tune in for a few episodes.

Instead, they entice me with the possibility of more action and a saucy T'pol. Are they kidding?

Kill Trek now...While there is still a chance it could resurface in the next decade. Time is running out.

Victor

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These comments are the straw that breaks the camel's back for me. I have been constantly dissapointed by B&B over the years and I am sick of it. They think just throwing in a alot more sex appeal will make it a great show, but it will make it worse. Now that Smallville will be on at the same time as ENT I will be watching that instead. I hope B&B are fired soon!

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I'm beginning to think B&B could slap Jonathan Dolgen across the face and STILL not get fired...

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I have thought for a long time that B&B speak the same as the current politicos, telling us with absolute conviction that what is false is true, that bad is actually good, asking us to believe what is 180 degrees from reality. It has been so frustrating. Im glad to see that all men who speak thus will soon meet a day of reckoning.

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If this report is true (I can rarely believe it) I feel pitty for the producers. People have done enough damage by kicking B&B now. This frozen climate is nonproductive. It goes against any sensible rule, any motto, on a normal working place. I wouldn't work under these conditions.

No. B&B weren't doing anything creatively wrong. Enterprise is a cute show but within the usual Star Trek formula, and that's the problem. The attempts to spice it up, does sound desperate and the outcome remains to be seen. Something might trigger peoples appriciation. I hope it's not a lost cause.

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There were a few statements made by B&B that were missed, but I was lucky enough to hear them first hand...

"This season will debute the new phaser design, it a design we feel will deliver the impact that this show needs. Are we worried that it looks like a dildo? Of course not, its all part of the new exciting and sexy season of ENT."

"Yes, we've decided to put T'pol in a classic miniskirt first established in the original series, only because this is prequel it will be shorter. Also in keeping with continuity no Vulcan will wear underwear. We feel this is the type of dynamic chemistry that will keep viewers glued to the screen!"

"This is a new show for the 21st century viewer and we want to push some boundries. With that in mind we have a special two-parter Archer Alien three way orgy special this year. The effects are mind blowing!"

"We have really raided the elite of guest stars for this year, I can promise you and our audiance you won't find any other show with such top names like Ron Jeremy!"

Really, B&B have no idea what they are doing, its obvious they are in the wrong industry with their bad plot lines, dialoge and concentraition on action, close ups, and sex.

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I decided to give Enterprise one last chance after last year's season finale, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that I'm going to regret that decision.

The best thing for the franchise right now is to just let it die before more damage is done. We can still enjoy TOS, TNG, and DS9 on TV and DVD. I prefer to just forget Ent ever happened.

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how the hell are they going to save it with a Vulcan sexy woman?? She aint a Seven of Nine.

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I was actually one of the few people who have supported Enterprise since the beginning... but after reading this from Berman... I think Enterprise should be cancelled right now...

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Well, this may be the end of Star Trek for a while. It really seems as though things may be damaged beyond repair now for the franchise. Maybe no more Star Trek will be a good thing. At least they can't destroy Star Trek any further than they have.

Some may say that the fans killed it, but I say it was the arrogance of B&B toward the fanbase and toward the integrity of the underlying idea behind Star Trek as well. All that the fans did was to react with astonishment at the mutations that B&B put the show through. B&B have treated them from the start with disdain and ridicule. Yes, the fanbase is a bunch of geeky people who could probably do better things with their time, but they care about the show, unlike some executives involved do.

Yeah, I bet they (B&B) were miserable to be at that function. Everybody knows they've screwed up. It's too bad that someone couldn't have simply been fired instead of the show coming to an end like this. Things were just beginning to get interesting with the Xindi idea.

Well, Thanks Berman and Braga, you've managed to destroy my favorite sci-fi franchise, one that I've been watching since before you were even aware of it's existence. Have your fun as you write T'Pol's emotional experimentation episodes in her cute wig and all.

Looking back, I would say that DEEP SPACE NINE was the last true Star Trek show, everything else was just utter rape and exploitation of an idea. Berman's creative touch is as stale as the farts in the cushion of his office chair.

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More sex on the horizon, suggests Berman, as he says Jolene Blalock's character 'T'Pol' could get saucy as the season unfolds.

"T'Pol is going to start experimenting with her emotions. It's going to provide us with some fun and possibly sexy stuff," Berman says. Again, TV Guide's Ausiello editorializes: "Now I know who Rick Berman reminds me of: Donald Rumsfeld."

DIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BERMAN!

If I want sex I'd watch some porn! Sci-fi please!


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